We have six more weeks before this kid is due, and still my husband and I have had zero progress on the baby name front. You can tell that this is our second kid because instead of stressing out and desperately searching for an appropriate name for this girl, our conversations over the last few months tend to go like:

"Oh hey, we should probably come up with a name for this kid."

"Yeah, we probably should."

*Tom and I fall asleep*

Other than general apathy or a belief that the right name will magically fall out of the sky without us having to do any work, I think part of the slowness are the four goofy rules that we have about picking a name which were created when I was pregnant with our son.

Our rules are this weird mixture of the... er... less than normal upbringings that Tom and I had:



1. No Bible Names.

Personally, even though I was raised by hard core atheists, I have nothing against bible names in particular. It's my husband, whose crazy parents tried every hard core fringe religion (and managed to get kicked out of their churches) that insisted on this rule. Unfortunately, this constitutes like 75% of western names in existence, including Tom's own name which I think he hates.

2. No Names of English Monarchs.

Another rule insisted on by my husband. This is because both of his crazy parents and most of his siblings have names like Charles, Elizabeth, Anne, William and Edward. And since his relationship with most of his family vacillates between amused tolerance and sheer annoyance, he feels pretty strongly about this.

3. No Names of Ayn Rand Heroes.

This particular hangup is mine because my parents believe, despite all evidence to the contrary, that they are some kind of hard core Randians. Of course, they aren't even remotely hard core Randians because my parents are actually loving, caring and giving people who put their kids first when we were growing up, are extremely generous with their family and friends and pretty much live their actual lives as normal people instead of being complete and utter assholes.

They insist upon this for some reason, to the point that I was almost named Dominique after Howard Roarke's fucked up love interest in The Fountainhead. You know the complete and utter crazy bitch who gets raped by the hero... and likes it? Yeah that one. *facepalm* Luckily my mom decided at the last minute that she liked a different name better.

Still, the scars of dodging that bullet have lasted 32 years and I refuse to name any kid of mine with a name that any of her characters have. However since women seem to be rare in her books in comparison to the men, this isn't really that much of a restriction since I wasn't planning on naming this girl Dagney, the only other female Rand heroine of consequence.

4. No Names in the Top 25.

This is just a goofy desire to make sure our own precious snowflakes won't be confused with other people's obviously inferior precious snowflakes.

So any suggestions that follow these rules? [livejournal.com profile] plutospawn has been particularly helpful in her suggestion of Xochiquetzal (she insists that it's pronounced "Sharyl"), and I just know you all will come up with something good...

From: [identity profile] midnight-hawk.livejournal.com


To make sure she can fill out her personality complexes bingocard as early as possible I suggest Anima or Jocasta (I was going to suggest Judith as well because decapitating people is awesome, but Bible name... *sigh*). Seriously, there are lots of great names, I'm sure whatever you pick will do her fine.

I'm sure you don't need to read it, but I thought site was amusing. (http://www.notwithoutmyhandbag.com/babynames/this</a)

From: [identity profile] prisoner--24601.livejournal.com


Heh, I was joking to [livejournal.com profile] plutospawn the other day that I should name her Electra just to give her issues later in life. Medea though is my favorite psycho bitch of all Greek mythology though. I'm guessing anyone named after her would have to grow up to be a complete bitch rofl.

Maybe Jocasta Anima Medea Electra Prestin. It has a ring to it... rofl. Actually that almost sounds like a Mary Sue name - she can be an evil Sue with violet eyes that falls in love with the good hero.

(Also love the link. Someone linked me that a few years ago, but I haven't seen it in a long time and am now wasting my afternoon reading through all the very bad ideas that people have had for naming their spawn. So hilarious and sad.)

From: [identity profile] athenaprime.livejournal.com


Weird that you should post this today. I had a dream about you last night and woke up and thought, "I need to send Pris a poke or something and make sure she's doing okay." Actually, the dream wasn't scary, it was just very...odd. You volunteered to be a test mom for a new stroller combo from Hyundai that ran on hybrid power, had it's own motor, and for some reason, a defense system with spiky wheels. I was dreaming and thinking, "I didn't think she lived in that rough of a neighborhood." Anyway, in the dream, you were soliciting input from your internet buddies about the style of upholstery.

As for naming...don't sweat it. For some reason I knew H-bomb's name as soon as the stick turned blue and nothing I did could summon up a boy's name even though I didn't confirm she was going to be a girl. D-man's name came to me partly because he was going to be named after either my grandfather or my great-grandmother. But her name didn't feel quite as right.

Sometimes you just have to get a look at the little bugger before you can name 'em. FWIW, I was going to be a Dominique, too, but since my folks are all but illiterate, it was for completely different reasons.

(PS - if you really *are* testing out the Mad Max Hybrid Baby Buggy, go for a soft camel interior. It's stylish and easy-clean and I know the green's going to look so dated in two years...)

From: [identity profile] prisoner--24601.livejournal.com


Oh man, I would totally test drive a stroller like that. I'd be sold just for the spikes on it's wheels.

Agreed that sometimes you have to see the kid to name them. That's what happened with our son. We had like three names we weren't sure about until we saw what he looked like (although since he's a carbon copy of my dad, perhaps we should have named him after my father, but three Hughs in the family would have been way too confusing I think.)

I thought about naming her after grandparents or great-grandparents, but unfortunately they either have super ethnic old school German names (Fredricka for example) or names that were really popular in the 20's and 30's that sound kinda weird nowadays (like Doris). So that's kinda out, although I will say if we did that, her name would definitely stand out lol.

From: [identity profile] plutospawn.livejournal.com


So Detroit Prestin and Porntape Prestin are out? You know me and my own particular hang ups about names. If I had my way, I'd place a 100 year ban on the name 'Jessica' simply because I have several Jessicas emailing me and sometimes I get confused over which Jessica I'm talking to in particular. In the crowd of minus 4 that I'm familiar with, there are two Charlottes, a Penelope, a Norah and an Audrey. If it's a female name, chances are, I'll hate it anyway, I don't like names that have more than two syllables and if you're going to call her a shortened version of the name, like Tom, you should name her Tom and not Thomas.

From: [identity profile] prisoner--24601.livejournal.com


Hahahah the only time I ever use my husband's full first name is when I'm really freaking pissed at him.

I agree that I'm not really a fan of nicknames. By a random quirk of fate, I've never gone by the nickname Nikki but that was because my parents already had a dog named Nikki before I was born (and goddamn did that dog suck ass - it was the meanest, stupidest poodle/peakaneese mix ever - which meant, of course, that it lived 17 miserable annoying years). My mom apparently liked the name Nicole so much but thought she'd never have kids and so named her dog that name.

So I guess you could say I was named after the shittiest dog ever, but at least I was never called Nikki (which I hate). And really, being named after the bitchiest dog in existence is still better than being named after a crazy ass Ayn Rand heroine.

From: [identity profile] singblueeyes.livejournal.com

Naming names


Man, I am SOOOOO the wrong person to comment on this. *MY* parents were/are complete theatre hippies. So, my name is a long hippy-rant like Moon-Unit Earth Harvest Shining Light Sunbeam ... except it's in Gaelic, thank god, so most people can't tell. EXCEPT, my folks thought it would be a real lark to give me the first name "Moggy" ... a British slang for unwanted,stray cats. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moggy
Needless to say, I haven't used that name since I got out of the torture that ensued in Jr. High School. Luckily I had so many other names to choose from and am, for the most part, known as 'Ileiren' ... which seems to be working just fine. (Although I chould have choses Talamh of Ceol, I suppose *facepalm*)
My sister, ten years younger than me, is Nelle.
*sigh*

From: [identity profile] prisoner--24601.livejournal.com

Re: Naming names


No see... you are totally the right person to comment on this. I think there is this biological chemical that gets released into a parent's brain when they realize that they have conceived a child. This chemical causes them to make some seriously crazy naming decisions which they look back later and facepalm over. It's people like you that keep parents sane and save other children from Jr. High torture.

From: [identity profile] mizanchan.livejournal.com


Really wanna mess with people? Name her Myfannwy. It's an old Welsh name that even I have issues pronouncing. (I think it's "My-fan-we", but I could be wrong as I've never heard it pronounced.)

How about Hindi/Sanskrit names? I'd suggest Padma, but too many people find that's too close to Padmé. If you're interested, search for Hindi or Sanskrit names; there are a lot that are very pretty.

Some others I like:

1) Sabrina
2) Athena
3) Jillian/Gillian (#90 on the names list)
4) Serena
5) Diana (Though I know of Princess Diana, so this could count as a royal name if you so chose.)
6) Margaret/Maggie


If I think of others, I'll drop you a line. Best of luck picking out a name. :)

From: [identity profile] prisoner--24601.livejournal.com


Hahahah love Myfannwy. The welsh are so awesome at coming up with the craziest and usually most unpronounceable names. I don't think I've ever seen one that I can pronounce correctly.

From: [identity profile] prisoner--24601.livejournal.com


Hahaha, man what a thing for a little kid to live up too. Then again, any kid with that name would be bound to live a life full of entertaining soap opera, so we'd at least never get bored.

From: [identity profile] kosiah.livejournal.com


I am currently being boggled that aaralyn (91)beats out Nicole (100).

But, okay, what about co-opting Kim's family tradition and going with a nice tv character? Darla!

From: [identity profile] prisoner--24601.livejournal.com


Hahah, I was thinking about the name Drucilla actually, but that seems like such a big name for a little baby. I seem to be leaning towards shorter names for some reason lately.

I have to say that I've never even heard the name Aaralyn before. I have to wonder if it's one of those crazy welsh names that end up being super hard to pronounce.

From: [identity profile] rimwalker.livejournal.com


No Bible names, but I see nothing excluding other religions!

Zarathustra is pretty awesome. That way, whenever it cries, you can roll over and whisper into your husbands ear: "Thus spoke Zarathustra."

This is a good plan.

There's also the Aztec Sun/War god: Huitzilopochtli (witsiloˈpotʃtɬi). It is said to literally mean: "Left-Handed Humming Bird." Haha, those Aztecs. They must have been a hoot at parties!

No English monarchs, but I see nothing excluding other nations!

Ozymandias is awesome. Is more widely known name is pretty good too, Ramesses The Great.

There's also Zhu Yuanzhang, founder if the Chinese Ming dynasty, from where all those vases that break in movies come from.

I'm so totally helpful.

EDIT: I forgot, you're having a girl.

... Actually, I still stand by my choices.

EDIT 2: One day, I will learn HTML.
Edited Date: 2008-03-16 01:18 am (UTC)

From: [identity profile] prisoner--24601.livejournal.com


I love the aztec names, because like welsh names, they have such crazy spelling and pronunciation that imagining little kids learning to spell their name in kindergarten and the teachers that have to try and pronounce it on the first day of class, makes me laugh and laugh.

I am a bad parent, I realize.

From: [identity profile] rose70.livejournal.com


I plan to name my daughter Clara, but you are welcome to steal it if you want :)

You can check out international names? I like to play with the lists at babynamer.com and see what people worlds away are socially allowed to call their children.

From: [identity profile] prisoner--24601.livejournal.com


Ooo that is a pretty name. I like it because it's simple too.

I like to check out international names as well, because it's really interesting what people name their kids in other countries.

From: [identity profile] nivenus.livejournal.com

As any writer knows...


...naming is the bane of life ;).

If you're not going to go with anything that's popular, trendy, famous, or well-known but don't want to get stuck with foreign or fictional names (not that I'm saying you can't go there) your best bet would probably be to go with older English names that haven't been used in a few centuries. They sound right and are easy to pronounce but aren't necessarily well-known.

For a girl you could get something like Ida, Luella, Rhetta, Arlene, or Ethel.

Or if you prefer you could go for mythological names (I know others have suggested that). And of course, Greek names might be too well known so Media might not be so good but Norse names like Sif, Iðunn, Frigg, or Freya might be good (or their Anglo-Saxon equivalents Sif, Idun, Fri, and Frea). Celtic names, if you're avoiding popular, are probably not a good choice however. At one point they were rare and that's how I and my brothers all got our names. But Aidan, my brother, now resents the fact that his name is very common - in spite of the fact it used to be incredibely rare.

Of course my name, Arthur, used to be very popular. Now it's next to unheard of.

From: [identity profile] prisoner--24601.livejournal.com

Re: As any writer knows...


Oh I think you're totally right about either going for the older English names, classical greek and latin ones or norse ones. The hilarious part is that I think they end up sticking out more, because people don't use them anymore (or do something horrible like add extra/replace letters with an extra "y" or "k.")

We went Scandinavian for our son, just because there were so many Aidens out there. I can see why, it's a cool name, but there are like three or four Aidens in my son's pre-school right now. Your poor brother lol.

From: [identity profile] crystalviora.livejournal.com


Hey there, congrats! I had no idea you're having a baby, congrats!!

On a side note, this is Crystal001 from KFM--may I add you as a friend? *makes puppydog eyes*
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