Word, on all of that. Let's see, my own pet peeves:
Morgana
She existed. She was Carth's wife. She died. This does NOT mean that you get to make Carth forget all about her or "lessen the blow" by turning her all witchy and hen-pecky so her death looks like it was a blessing for poor beleaguered Carth. Carth said a few key things about her in the game:
Carth: She had courage and ... and she was stubborn. I could never talk her out of anything once she put her mind to it. And she hated it when I signed back onto the fleet at the start of the war. I had planned on... on leaving soon, to join her...
Carth: Because you're an impressive and beautiful woman. In some ways... good ways... you remind me of my wife and I'd like to make things right between us.
Carth: I told you my wife died four years ago. I... I've just been trying to remember what she looked like. It shouldn't be so difficult. I can remember things about her... things she did. The way she smiled, what her hair smelled like, our last fight... just not her face.
You have four adjectives to go with for characterizing Morgana: courageous, stubborn, impressive and beautiful. I don't see pushy, lecturing, cruel, or unsupportive anywhere in there. Fighting about Carth reenlisting doesn't make her OMGSOUNSUPPORTIVEOFCARTH'SBELIEFS!!!11!! Try actually marrying a military man and being away from him for long periods of time and worrying everyday that he's going to die. And then, when he finally does come back and you think the worrying's over, he re-ups again. I think you'd have a few words to say to him too.
And I don't care how big of a shrew you turn her into- Morgana will ALWAYS be a better person than Revan. She didn't kill people or destroy worlds or try to take over the galaxy. She wins, no matter how verbally abusive you make her towards Carth. End of story.
O_o OMG, heh *gets down off Morgana soapbox*
Really Badly Done Dustil
I hate overly-angsty Dustil. I mean, obviously the boy's got a lot of issues that he'll probably never come to terms with, especially with his father and Revan. But that doesn't mean he's going off on Carth/Revan every five seconds or sitting around stewing about it all the time. He was pretty close to the top of his class at a SITH ACADEMY. He didn't do any whining there- it was a weakness. Someone would have killed him just to get him to shut up. He's a teenager with issues, but he's also been through a lot and it's hardened him a little. Getting angry now and then and going off on his dad or Revan is one thing- spending all his time whining about it is another.
And then there's the other side of the spectrum- the "accepts everything with a deranged smile" Dustil. There is no way Dustil's going to parrot the rest of the crew's reactions to Revan, the whole "oh, well you're not Revan anymore so it's okay" reaction. Thankfully I haven't seen too much of this, but it makes me grind my teeth together. He's not going to be happy that his father's moving on. He's not going to be open to calling her his stepmom or anything close to a maternal figure. She's responsible for the death of his mother, and no matter how much Revan sucks up to him, I just don't think Dustil would ever forget that. He might, like Carth/Canderous, develop a grudging respect for her, but I don't see much beyond that being realistic.
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Date: 2005-07-01 02:57 pm (UTC)Morgana
She existed. She was Carth's wife. She died. This does NOT mean that you get to make Carth forget all about her or "lessen the blow" by turning her all witchy and hen-pecky so her death looks like it was a blessing for poor beleaguered Carth. Carth said a few key things about her in the game:
Carth: She had courage and ... and she was stubborn. I could never talk her out of anything once she put her mind to it. And she hated it when I signed back onto the fleet at the start of the war. I had planned on... on leaving soon, to join her...
Carth: Because you're an impressive and beautiful woman. In some ways... good ways... you remind me of my wife and I'd like to make things right between us.
Carth: I told you my wife died four years ago. I... I've just been trying to remember what she looked like. It shouldn't be so difficult. I can remember things about her... things she did. The way she smiled, what her hair smelled like, our last fight... just not her face.
You have four adjectives to go with for characterizing Morgana: courageous, stubborn, impressive and beautiful. I don't see pushy, lecturing, cruel, or unsupportive anywhere in there. Fighting about Carth reenlisting doesn't make her OMGSOUNSUPPORTIVEOFCARTH'SBELIEFS!!!11!! Try actually marrying a military man and being away from him for long periods of time and worrying everyday that he's going to die. And then, when he finally does come back and you think the worrying's over, he re-ups again. I think you'd have a few words to say to him too.
And I don't care how big of a shrew you turn her into- Morgana will ALWAYS be a better person than Revan. She didn't kill people or destroy worlds or try to take over the galaxy. She wins, no matter how verbally abusive you make her towards Carth. End of story.
O_o OMG, heh *gets down off Morgana soapbox*
Really Badly Done Dustil
I hate overly-angsty Dustil. I mean, obviously the boy's got a lot of issues that he'll probably never come to terms with, especially with his father and Revan. But that doesn't mean he's going off on Carth/Revan every five seconds or sitting around stewing about it all the time. He was pretty close to the top of his class at a SITH ACADEMY. He didn't do any whining there- it was a weakness. Someone would have killed him just to get him to shut up. He's a teenager with issues, but he's also been through a lot and it's hardened him a little. Getting angry now and then and going off on his dad or Revan is one thing- spending all his time whining about it is another.
And then there's the other side of the spectrum- the "accepts everything with a deranged smile" Dustil. There is no way Dustil's going to parrot the rest of the crew's reactions to Revan, the whole "oh, well you're not Revan anymore so it's okay" reaction. Thankfully I haven't seen too much of this, but it makes me grind my teeth together. He's not going to be happy that his father's moving on. He's not going to be open to calling her his stepmom or anything close to a maternal figure. She's responsible for the death of his mother, and no matter how much Revan sucks up to him, I just don't think Dustil would ever forget that. He might, like Carth/Canderous, develop a grudging respect for her, but I don't see much beyond that being realistic.
Aaaand I'm spent. Heh.